
December 20, 2024 at 9:00:00 AM
07.Panel Discussion 2.2A ASEAN-Japan × Sustainability & Decarbonization

Co-Creation Panel Discussion for ASEAN-Japan Sustainability & Decarbonization
■Session Information:
Session Name: Panel Discussion 2.2A ASEAN-Japan x Sustainability & Decarbonization
Place: ASEAN-Japan Business Leaders Summit 2024, International Conference Center Kyoto, Annex Hall A
Date: 20th December 2024
■Moderator:
Gareth Wong
Head of Group Strategy & Projects Sembcorp Industries Ltd.
Singapore
■Speakers:
Michael Widjaja
Group CEO Sinar Mas Land
Indonesia
Rei Murakami
President Kadan Capital
Japan
Chikako Kurokawa
Founder and CEO ESA Inc.
Japan
Ahmad Fathi
Founder Fatih Aquaculture / Alya Playhouse
Brunei
■Panel Discussion:

The Moderator and Speakers
Gareth Wong opened the discussion by highlighting the broad relevance of sustainability and decarbonization across various industries. He invited the panelists to introduce themselves and share their thoughts on how these themes relate to their businesses.

Ahmad Fathi introduced his ventures in aquaculture, highlighting a Japanese government-supported initiative to develop a sustainable floating hatchery.
Rei Murakami shared his perspective from the venture capital sector, noting increased investment interest in sustainability and renewable energy solutions across Southeast Asia.
Chikako Kurokawa detailed ESA Inc.’s work in recycling composite plastics, emphasizing the need for scalable circular economy solutions.
Michael Widjaja explained how Sinar Mas Land incorporates sustainability in urban planning, from plastic recycling programs to energy-efficient building designs.
■ASEAN-Japan Collaboration Opportunities
The discussion transitioned to how ASEAN and Japan can collaborate on sustainability:
Michael Widjaja emphasized the importance of circular and inclusive economies in urban planning, including community programs to exchange plastic waste for essentials and using recycled plastics in infrastructure.
Chikako Kurokawa shared how ESA Inc.’s recycling technology could bridge Japan and ASEAN, promoting collaboration on composite plastic recycling and sustainability.
Rei Murakami highlighted the potential of ASEAN’s carbon credit market, advocating for Japan to streamline trade mechanisms for better scalability.
Ahmad Fathi pointed to Brunei’s growing interest in technology transfers and sustainability practices, underscoring the need for collaboration to close the technology gap.
■Green Premium and Consumer Behavior
The panel tackled whether consumers and businesses are ready to pay a "green premium" for sustainable practices:
Rei Murakami argued that incentivization is crucial, suggesting carbon taxes and market mechanisms to shift behaviors.
Chikako Kurokawa shared her challenges with convincing Japanese businesses to invest in sustainable materials, contrasting Japan’s slower adoption with Europe’s progressive regulations.
Michael Widjaja noted that in Indonesia, sustainability initiatives must be driven by top-down policies and financial incentives like green financing.
Ahmad Fathi emphasized the importance of educating Brunei’s consumers to shift mindsets toward sustainability.
■Cultural Influences on Sustainability
An audience member highlighted the cultural significance of sustainability, referencing Japan’s "mottainai" concept.
Chikako Kurokawa reflected on the global relevance of "mottainai" and the importance of revisiting cultural values to promote sustainability.
Michael Widjaja